Biaruahtu__ Salai Josephbawi
CLP: Na Sianginn kainak le atulio na
riantuanmi na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Pu Zo Tum Hmung/Robawm |
ZTH: 2003 ah khan Harvard University in M.A (International Relation_Public
Administration) in ka dih. Atulio CNF ah Supreme Council chungtel pakhat ka si.
Cun US le UN nih Kawlram refugee zohkhelnak le zeidah an lawh timi hlathlainak (independence
research dirhmun in) lei ahhin an ka hmang tawn. 2008 hrawng ahkhan Chin
Baptist Churches, USA bawmhnak in Mizoram, India zong kan rak tlawng. UHNCR
zung hi Aizawl lei thialpiak ding tiah kan rak nor len nain India cozah nih a
rak duhlo i ka lung arak tha lo ngai. Mizoram um Chinmi harnak peklo ding,tlaih
le khih tuahpiak lo ding, bawmhchannak peek ding, Chin Seeking Refuge timi
report cauk zong kan rak chuah i UNHCR lei in an hmang ngaingai.
CLP: Chinram hi UNDP nih minung 73%
cu sifahnak tang ah an um rihko an kan ti. Zeitin dah kanmah kutkete in
thanchonak (ngandamnak, chawlet,fimcawnnak tbk..) lei kan panh than khawh hnga
tiah na ruah?
ZTH: Cozah nih mahte lairelnak,tuannak nawl a kan peek hlanlo kan thancho
lai lo. Kan holh, kan ca, kan biaknak, kan phunglam, leitang thilchuak tbk..
mahte khuakhang lairelnak ngei a hau. Atulio i hruai le iukning
(Administratation le management) thlen ahau. Cun Chinmi nih kanmah kutkete dirh
itimlo in cozah (Center-Bahu) lawng bochan kan i tim chung paoh cu kan thangcho
lai lo.
CLP: Guam i Chinmi 700 an rak tanlio
ah chanchuahtu a rak si tiah kan in theih. Zeitin Guam an rak luhning le harnak
an tonning hi a si.
ZTH: Hilio hi US ramchung um territory pakhat Guam ram ah Kawlram in arak
lutmi an rak tampi. Phungninglo in rak luh a si tikah Guam ah tlaih an tong.
Rev. Dr. Hre Kio le nupi dang zong an rak itel i annih nih an rak chimpiak len
hna nain tlam arak tling kho lo. Cu tikah Chin Mission Baptist Church (CMBC)
Rev. Rual Uk, Pu Mang Cung Nung pawl tuan lio ahkhan bawmchanding an rak nawl
hna caah CMBC khrihfabu zong bawmhding in timtuahnak an rak ngei i keimah hi
fial ka si. Cu hnu ahcun US Congress i lutlai lei upa Thomsom nawlpeknak in US
cozah nih US ram ah lak dih an si. Osama Binladin i World Trade Centre vanlawng
a teihhlan te ahkhan US an luh dih kha a
si. Pathian khuakhan a si ko.
CLP: India, Thailand le Malaysia ah
Chinmi tampi an um rih sikaw, atulio UNHCR, US tbk lungput zeidah a lawh lai.
Hmailei Refugee lakthannak lam zeidah a lawh rih hnga?
ZTH: UNHCR nih hin Refugee cohlannak sawhsawh cu a atuah nain a duhnak ram
paoh ah kuatnak nawl a ngei lo. US asilo ah Australia tbk nih tukum cu cuzat kan
kua an ti lawngah UNHCR nih a kuatmi hna a
si. Biana US nih 2002 kum ahkhan Asia ramchung vialte refugee minung
4000 arak lak hna. 2006 kum ah minung 13,000, 2007 kum ah minung 7000, 2008 kum
ah minung 20,000, 2009 kum ah 19,000, 2010 ah minung 17,000, 2011 kum ah minung
19,000, 2012 kum ah minung 18,000, 2013kum ah minung 17,000 alak hna. Nizan nai
October 2 ahkhan Obama nih refugee lak ka qhumh cang lai tiah 2014 kum caah
minung 14,000 calawng min athut cang. Malaysia zongah Chin refugee 30,000 fai
an um. Hi zazat hi Asia ramchung minung 14,000 lakdingmi ah Chinmi cu minung
200-500 kar lawng hi kan itelbik tawn. Atulio UNHCR lei in registration
tuahtermi zong hi ramdang lannak ca tuahtermi cu a si lai ka zum lo. Cucaah
ramchung mi nih refugee dirhmun in ramdang kal i thawh ti hlah u ti chim ka duh
ko.
CLP: Atulio US Cozah kharnak
(Shutdown) kongah Malaysia in US azuang dingmi minung 500 fai an kham than hna.
Hi cozahpi kharnak ruang le sau arau rih lai tiah na ruat maw? Hi bantuk ram
rumra ngei nih hi bantuk dirhmun an tonmi hi kan ram sining he cawi tlai na
duhmi?
ZTH: Chinmi US kalding an taap cu thinphang ding a si lo. US cozah khar ruangah
a si ko i atha than colh lai ka zumh. Sau an khar ahcun Republican pawl
sualphawt an tong te lai i aralaimi thimnak ah an tlaknak a si chin lai afiang
ko. US ahcun President nawl sangbik kan ti ko nain Cozah nih ahman dingmi
phaisa vialte hi US Congress (Pyitaungsuh hluttaw) nih cawitlainak (check &
balance) atuah i a hnatlakpi ahau. Cucu congress chung republican pawl nih an
hnatlak khawh lo ruangah a chuakmi a si. US sining hi theih awk le izohchunh
awk ngai a si ko.
CLP: CNF nih kanmah cawlcanghnak thawngin Chinmi refugee dirhmun
in ramdang kan phan an ti. Ramdang phancia cheukhat nih CNF ruangah a silo a
timi zong an um. Nang na hmuhning chim awk atha hnga maw?
ZTH: Hihi chim awk ahar ngai. Malaysia kong ah CNF ruahnak cheuhnak tampi a
tel. CNF hrim nih UNHCR cozah zung chimpiaknak hrim zong India he Malaysia he
atlawm tilo. Na belte in CNF tello in pumpak in a chimmi cu an um ve. Tam deuh
hi cu CNF nih kan harnak kong le kan ram sining chimnak in a si bik ko tiah ka
ruah.
CLP: Chinram thancho tuahnak caah
zeitin dah Ramleng le Ramchung Chinmi pehtlai ah ser a thatbik lai tiah na
ruah?
ZTH: Hihi abiapi tuk hringhran. Ram thanchonak kan serti lai ti ahcun abikin minobu
le minobu biana ah CYO tbk, Khrihfabu churches pawl le association pawl tampi
in pehtlainak ngeih cio le tuanti cio ahau. Cucu kan tuanti ahcun arau hlan ah
Switzerland ram bantuk ramtha kan ser khawh te ko lai.
CLP: Atulio CNF an si ah, UNFC
dirhmun in a si ah Kawlram kahdaih chonhbiaknak hi zumhtlak le afeh dirhmun a
phan lai tiah na ruah maw?
ZTH: Chim awk ahar ngai ko. Nitin an cawlcanghning, an chimning in an tuah
serhnak timi zoh tu in tuaktan khawh a si deuh lai.
CLP: “Chin” timi min le “Zo/Zomi,Cho
tbk” timi min hmannak ah na hmuhning?
ZTH: “Chin” timi cu ramkip le vawleipi nih a kan theihnak, cu theihnak
lawngsilo in an kan pomcang caah “Chin” timi mintang in i pheo awk atha lo. Ral
kan ngeih lio ah Chin timi tangin lungkhat te dirti hi abiapi tuk. Mizoram
bantuk in dirh le thawkka ahcun peng le tlang, phung le hram le chungkhar
minput I I qanhtuk hna hi a tha hrim lo. (theihawk:Mizo
timi cu Zomi kha an letmi a si. Aho dah mizo set asi tichim khawh a silo biahaltu
chapmi) Tha tein Chinram kan dir khawh cang kan ti hnu ah kha kong kha cu
ceihte a si hnga.
CLP: Bu chung ramkhel (Party
Politics) le miphun ramkhel (National Politics) kong an biapitnak le cah duhmi
na ngei maw?
ZTH: Bu tanhduhnak, keimah bu, keimah tlang, keimah peng timi nihhin thancho a
kan dawn. Khakha atulio biatak tein hrial le iralrin ngai ahau. Cu i aralkahmi
Miphun ramkhel timi cu miphung le ram ca tibak in duhdannak ngeihlo in thiltuah
kha si. A tulio kan dirhmun in a biapi
taktakmi a si.
CLP: Biacah Na Duhmi?
ZTH: Kan ram thlennak caah kan zapi in thlacam teirial in ibawm cio hna usih.
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